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	<title>Comments on: &#8220;I could care less&#8221; is just wrong</title>
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		<title>By: From Now On :: Tim Reader's blog</title>
		<link>http://paulannett.co.uk/i-could-care-less-is-just-wrong#comment-49287</link>
		<dc:creator>From Now On :: Tim Reader's blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 16:45:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I was interested to stumble on a debate about the Americanism &#8220;I could care less&#8221; and other phrases whose apparent [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Tim Reader</title>
		<link>http://paulannett.co.uk/i-could-care-less-is-just-wrong#comment-48827</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Reader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 15:17:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Despite being a grammar/punctuation/phrase pedant myself, I think a lot of the frustrations listed here are eased by understanding the etymology. (by which I don't mean to sound patronising)

For example, I think 'cheap at half the price' originates with 'at half the price it would be cheap, so I'm selling it for its proper value'. I've got a book somewhere with an explanation of its Cockney roots anyway (definitely not an Americanism). There are some great books out there which can mollify even the hardest language pedant - for example, the apparently pardoxical phrase 'the exception that proves the rule' makes a lot more sense when you learn that 'prove' used to mean 'test'.

With the 'I could care less' example - for those it frustrates, I wonder if you're missing the nuances of it? I've always been fond of this variation which to my ear always has an ellipsis at the end "I could care less..." as in "...but I don't" which has more a playfully, insouciantly sarcastic ring to it, compared with the tart British equivalent: "I couldn't care less".

Whoever mentioned the 'just' example. YES! And it's not new either; I remember that frustrating me from the earliest possible age (particularly when it made it into tv scripts and so on) - before I even understood why. It *just* didn't sound right =]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Despite being a grammar/punctuation/phrase pedant myself, I think a lot of the frustrations listed here are eased by understanding the etymology. (by which I don&#8217;t mean to sound patronising)</p>
<p>For example, I think &#8216;cheap at half the price&#8217; originates with &#8216;at half the price it would be cheap, so I&#8217;m selling it for its proper value&#8217;. I&#8217;ve got a book somewhere with an explanation of its Cockney roots anyway (definitely not an Americanism). There are some great books out there which can mollify even the hardest language pedant - for example, the apparently pardoxical phrase &#8216;the exception that proves the rule&#8217; makes a lot more sense when you learn that &#8216;prove&#8217; used to mean &#8216;test&#8217;.</p>
<p>With the &#8216;I could care less&#8217; example - for those it frustrates, I wonder if you&#8217;re missing the nuances of it? I&#8217;ve always been fond of this variation which to my ear always has an ellipsis at the end &#8220;I could care less&#8230;&#8221; as in &#8220;&#8230;but I don&#8217;t&#8221; which has more a playfully, insouciantly sarcastic ring to it, compared with the tart British equivalent: &#8220;I couldn&#8217;t care less&#8221;.</p>
<p>Whoever mentioned the &#8216;just&#8217; example. YES! And it&#8217;s not new either; I remember that frustrating me from the earliest possible age (particularly when it made it into tv scripts and so on) - before I even understood why. It *just* didn&#8217;t sound right =]</p>
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		<title>By: Gray Spencer</title>
		<link>http://paulannett.co.uk/i-could-care-less-is-just-wrong#comment-42035</link>
		<dc:creator>Gray Spencer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 14:40:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Paul,
'Cheap at half the price', well obviously it is, surely the quote should be 'Cheap at twice the price', it makes much more sense.
             Cheers!!!    Gray</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Paul,<br />
&#8216;Cheap at half the price&#8217;, well obviously it is, surely the quote should be &#8216;Cheap at twice the price&#8217;, it makes much more sense.<br />
             Cheers!!!    Gray</p>
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		<title>By: SimianE</title>
		<link>http://paulannett.co.uk/i-could-care-less-is-just-wrong#comment-30711</link>
		<dc:creator>SimianE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 13:16:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, that's actually my point. ;)

I keep hearing people move the word 'just' as in the first example - my 'web developer' example mearly illustrates the point, as it's easier to see from this that the position of the word 'just' gives the phrase a completely different meaning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, that&#8217;s actually my point. <img src='http://paulannett.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I keep hearing people move the word &#8216;just&#8217; as in the first example - my &#8216;web developer&#8217; example mearly illustrates the point, as it&#8217;s easier to see from this that the position of the word &#8216;just&#8217; gives the phrase a completely different meaning.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Annett</title>
		<link>http://paulannett.co.uk/i-could-care-less-is-just-wrong#comment-30708</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Annett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 13:03:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@SimianE - Your examples have different meanings, so they're both valid.

"I'm not just a web designer" would mean I &lt;i&gt;am&lt;/i&gt; a web designer, and I am other things as well.

"I'm just not a web designer" would mean I've tried to be a web designer, but found that it's not for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@SimianE - Your examples have different meanings, so they&#8217;re both valid.</p>
<p>&#8220;I&#8217;m not just a web designer&#8221; would mean I <i>am</i> a web designer, and I am other things as well.</p>
<p>&#8220;I&#8217;m just not a web designer&#8221; would mean I&#8217;ve tried to be a web designer, but found that it&#8217;s not for me.</p>
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		<title>By: SimianE</title>
		<link>http://paulannett.co.uk/i-could-care-less-is-just-wrong#comment-30247</link>
		<dc:creator>SimianE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 12:01:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The word 'just' seems to get misplaced a lot recently:

"I'm not just a clone"
"I'm just not a clone" - to quote 'The Streets'.

One of these makes sense, the other is totally incorrect - and I keep hearing it in movies, tv, music and conversation.

Let's change the line a little:

"I'm not just a web developer"
"I'm just not a web developer" - much better.


While we're on the subject: Anyone who can't get 'their', 'there' and 'they're' right makes me want to kill.

In fact there are several of those that annoy me: 'to', 'too' and 'two' or 'your' and 'you're' for instance.

I used to know a guy who couldn't get 'no' and 'know' the right way around.

And it's 'ASK' not 'AKS'...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The word &#8216;just&#8217; seems to get misplaced a lot recently:</p>
<p>&#8220;I&#8217;m not just a clone&#8221;<br />
&#8220;I&#8217;m just not a clone&#8221; - to quote &#8216;The Streets&#8217;.</p>
<p>One of these makes sense, the other is totally incorrect - and I keep hearing it in movies, tv, music and conversation.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s change the line a little:</p>
<p>&#8220;I&#8217;m not just a web developer&#8221;<br />
&#8220;I&#8217;m just not a web developer&#8221; - much better.</p>
<p>While we&#8217;re on the subject: Anyone who can&#8217;t get &#8216;their&#8217;, &#8216;there&#8217; and &#8216;they&#8217;re&#8217; right makes me want to kill.</p>
<p>In fact there are several of those that annoy me: &#8216;to&#8217;, &#8216;too&#8217; and &#8216;two&#8217; or &#8216;your&#8217; and &#8216;you&#8217;re&#8217; for instance.</p>
<p>I used to know a guy who couldn&#8217;t get &#8216;no&#8217; and &#8216;know&#8217; the right way around.</p>
<p>And it&#8217;s &#8216;ASK&#8217; not &#8216;AKS&#8217;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Annett</title>
		<link>http://paulannett.co.uk/i-could-care-less-is-just-wrong#comment-27056</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Annett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 14:16:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, Peri. Unfortunately I had to close the commenting on my blog post about &lt;a href="http://nice-design.co.uk/blog/sky-plus-system-fault-how-to-fix-faulty-sky-without-a65-callout-fee" rel="nofollow"&gt;Sky plus system faults&lt;/a&gt; 18 months ago. The old blog was creaking under the strain of 400+ comments on one entry!

I hope you found the advice there to be useful.

thanks,
Paul</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Peri. Unfortunately I had to close the commenting on my blog post about <a href="http://nice-design.co.uk/blog/sky-plus-system-fault-how-to-fix-faulty-sky-without-a65-callout-fee" rel="nofollow">Sky plus system faults</a> 18 months ago. The old blog was creaking under the strain of 400+ comments on one entry!</p>
<p>I hope you found the advice there to be useful.</p>
<p>thanks,<br />
Paul</p>
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		<title>By: Peri</title>
		<link>http://paulannett.co.uk/i-could-care-less-is-just-wrong#comment-26582</link>
		<dc:creator>Peri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 14:14:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wanted to leave a response to sky page - but it wouldn't give me that option!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wanted to leave a response to sky page - but it wouldn&#8217;t give me that option!</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Pennell</title>
		<link>http://paulannett.co.uk/i-could-care-less-is-just-wrong#comment-24608</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew Pennell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 08:51:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm trying to keep the creeping Americanisms out of my daughters' language. Currently the challenge is "done". You're not done, you're finished!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m trying to keep the creeping Americanisms out of my daughters&#8217; language. Currently the challenge is &#8220;done&#8221;. You&#8217;re not done, you&#8217;re finished!</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle</title>
		<link>http://paulannett.co.uk/i-could-care-less-is-just-wrong#comment-24605</link>
		<dc:creator>Michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 08:24:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another thing that annoys me is when people have an itch and they say they'll "itch it".

If you have an itch, you scratch it, not itch it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another thing that annoys me is when people have an itch and they say they&#8217;ll &#8220;itch it&#8221;.</p>
<p>If you have an itch, you scratch it, not itch it!</p>
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